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Originally Posted by bluecenturian

Know your facts.

Retired LEO have to qualify each year to maintain their HR218 which is issued by their retiring agency. This agency will be subject to civil liability in a shooting therefore they require proficiency. CCP have no other agency backing them so the proficiency and liability would be on the individual.

Retired LEO get a retired ID AND a HR218 permit. You are not covered under HR218 without a valid permit which expires annually. I know plenty of retired who choose not to get the 218 and have a CCP instead since they have no plans traveling outside their home state with a firearm.

Yes, you should know your facts.

HR218 is the colloquial reference to the Federal statute known as the Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act (LEOSA), originally enacted in 2004. HR218 was the House bill that started it.

There is no such thing as an "HR218 permit." And, there is no permit issued by an officer's retiring agency. There are a great many factors that go into determining whether or not a retired police officer meets the requirements of LEOSA, but the bare minimums are:

1. Must have retired in good standing from a law enforcement agency with a minimum 10 years of qualified service.
2. Must have been issued, and carry on his/her person an ID card that specifies they are a retired peace officer.
3. Within the past 12 months, must have successfully qualified with a handgun, to at least the standards dictated by the state in which he/she resides. Proof of such qualification must be carried on their person.

So, a retired officer gets a "retired police ID" from their former agency. He gets an annual qualification card from whomever put that retired officer through a qual course. The "retiring agency" has no liability, as the only thing they certify is that the individual has retired from that department. Again, no HR218 "permit" is issued by anyone. You don't need a permit to benefit from the provisions of Federal law. You don't have a free speech permit, do you?

Here in The Villages, the Sumter County Sheriff holds annual qualification sessions for retired police officers, to allow them to satisfy that requirement under LEOSA. The Sheriff's Department just finished those sessions this month, with the shooting sessions being held at Shooters World. Both the Sheriff, and Shooters World, offer this service free of charge to the retired officers. This year, nearly 700 retired police officers took part in those sessions.

Apologies for the lengthy post, but it is important to get your facts straight.