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Originally Posted by bluecenturian
Know your facts.
Retired LEO have to qualify each year to maintain their HR218 which is issued by their retiring agency. Not exactly. If the retired LEO wishes to carry concealed, he/she will have to show evidence he met the firearms qualifications within the last year from the date he is carrying concealed. The officer can choose to not qualify for any extended period of time but will not be able to legally carry concealed if he/she did not qualify within the last year. The officer can of course go through the qualification at any point to get back into status
This agency will be subject to civil liability in a shooting therefore they require proficiency. I doubt the agency has any liability concerning retirees. No more than the state has for those who are issued a CCP. The individual in both instances is the one who is held liable for any action deemed contrary to law involving the use of a concealed firearm.
Retired LEO get a retired ID AND a HR218 permit. Retired LEOs might receive the proper credentials from their previous employer. Some agencies do not issue them and cannot be compelled to do so. Those agencies also do not issue an HR 218 permit. There is no such thing. The law stipulates that a qualified LEO, retired or not, with the proper credentials can carry concealed under LEOSA. However, one of the stipulations is that the LEO must show that he/she met the firearm qualification standards of the former agency or that of the state he/she now resides within the previous year of the date that LEO chooses to carry concealed. Some agencies do not offer firearm qualifications to former employees or the employee has moved. So there are usually options. Florida has a state sanctioned LEO qualification standard and firearm qualification is made available to qualified persons at a cost through private state-sanctioned individuals. The state nor the firearms qualifier can be held liable for the actions of those they qualify. Nor do they issue an HR 218 permit. They do issue a card that serves as documentation to allow the retired LEO to show that he or she has met the qualification requirement ; and assuming it was less than a year prior to the date he or she is carrying concealed, then that part of the statute requirements has been met.
You are not covered under HR218 without a valid permit which expires annually. I know plenty of retired who choose not to get the 218 and have a CCP instead since they have no plans traveling outside their home state with a firearm. There is no such thing as a HR 218 permit. The firearms qualification documentation can be a card or letter or such. It is not a permit. Those retired LEOs you know can at anytime meet the firearms qualification again and carry concealed under LEOSA assuming they are otherwise qualified and have the proper credentials issued to them at retirement. Also, a state issued CCP is not always restricted to the state in which it was issued. Many states have reciprocal agreements with other states.
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LEOSA can be confusing. There is so much disinformation out there.