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Old 04-07-2023, 03:38 PM
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What argument are you referring to? You exaggerated and I corrected you. Go reread my post. Demand for gas and diesel will be strong for the next 20 years (maybe more), but diminishing slowly with time. There are currently 1.4 billion cars and trucks and 89 million cars and trucks are manufactured each year and their average lifespan is probably about 20 years. Yes, several companies have been working on solid state batteries. What really matters is what can be produced at scale. It is very doubtful you will see solid state batteries produced at scale in 2025 - perhaps more like 2030 or a bit later. We will, however, continue to see several different chemistries in lithium-ion batteries (NMC, LFP, NCA) produced at scale for the next several years (led by CATL, Tesla/Panasonic, and LG). More facts (or what you call arguments), I know you don't like that.

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager View Post
And I know people like to get hung up on the minutia when they're losing an argument. For the sake of that, OK....we'll use your numbers. If demand for that 45% was cut by half, then it would have an effect not only on that 45% but also the 55% that is used for other oil based products. Use me for an example… I pay $0 directly to the oil industry for my transportation, and it takes less total energy consumption for my electric vehicle to go 100 miles than my other car which is a gasoline powered Prius that gets almost 60 mpg. Toyota announced that they have over 1000 patents on battery technology that will replace lithium ion, and are going to roll out a solid state battery (what NASA uses in space) powered vehicle in 2025 that they claim will go 700 miles on a charge and be able to be recharged in 20 minutes. Up in Minnesota one of the large gasoline station chains is already starting to put in islands for EV charging. The handwriting is on the wall.

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