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Originally Posted by sounding
It's Sunday, so I'll say Amen. However, here's what the scientists at the United Nations' climate change office (IPCC) said in 2001: “In climate research and modeling … the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”
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Once again the author of this thread and so many others is either ignorant of what the IPCC said, or is deliberately lying to this audience with his veneer of knowledge. He has picked a few words and thinks we are all too sheeplike to check it out. The term the IPCC used was "climate states" not "climate" They do NOT mean the same thing.
If you care you can read what real experts have said about the climate science deniers have done to twist the meaning of the IPCC report and ignore context
Fact check: Climate models reliable, IPCC statement misrepresented
Funny how the OP says that the IPCC is terrible, how the UN is terrible on climate issues, and only on this issue, one sentence that he misuses, then the IPCC report is great evidence of something something.
Here is a correct intelligent assessment of the 2001 IPCC report including more of the exact language used:
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"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible. Rather the focus must be upon the prediction of the probability distribution of the system’s future possible states by the generation of ensembles of model solutions. Addressing adequately the statistical nature of climate is computationally intensive and requires the application of new methods of model diagnosis, but such statistical information is essential."
In short, the IPCC is saying that we cannot precisely predict the future climate state; however, we can produce a probability distribution of possible future climate states, which is precisely what the IPCC report proceeds to do. Monckton has misrepresented the IPCC report by selecting a single sentence that serves a convenient purpose out of context, and choosing to ignore the text immediately following, not to mention essentially entire sections of the IPCC report where they do indeed detail the probabilities of future climate states from model ensembles.
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