We have 15 pages of back and forth and zero progress in the discussion (shocker, I know).
Can we all agree that:
1. There are approximately 400 million guns in the U.S. a lot of which are the scary kind.
2. We have a completely open border that is unable to stop millions of illegal immigrants and literally tons of illegal drugs as well as many many weapons, lots of which are illegal (automatic weapons).
3. People (criminal) who are going to commit (mass) murder are not deterred by breaking numerous laws and taking the lives of innocents (often kids). Therefore, they will not follow gun laws and will get a weapon in some illegal fashion as necessary.
4. Therefore, the mission is to somehow predict which previously law abiding citizen has somehow snapped and prevent them from possessing or using a gun, explosive, SUV, etc., or at the very least minimize the damage they are able to inflict, while not preventing law abiding citizens from possessing weapons for self-protection, sport, or whatever other legal purpose as protected by common sense and the U.S. Constitution.
If we focussed on that real mission, then, and only then, can we make any progress.
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