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Originally Posted by Bucco
...This President WILL have his health reform, and folks like you will praise it to high heavens no matter what it says or does to the nation or the economy...
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There you go again, Bucco. Please don't tell me what I will do or how I will react to a future political developments. You have been consistent in your criticism of this President and this administration, regardless of what they've done. In fact, it's hard to believe that anyone could be so consistently wrong, but your criticism is your right. But as you well know, Bucco, I have praised this administration when I think they've done well as I've been critical of some other things they've done. Please don't paint me into the same one-sided, ideologically-unyielding, and ignore-the-facts political posture you so consistently demonstrate.
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Originally Posted by Bucco
... MOST IF NOT ALL of it is being done with NO DISCUSSION...The NO DISCUSSION on such large impact things is flat out scary !...This entire debate on the one issue of health care will end up. NO MATTER THE FACTS, with the President and those wonderful leaders of congress ramming something through and saying how this had to be done and those bad guys on the other side just wouldnt give...this is going to happen no matter what happens in reality in the next few months....
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Yep. That's exactly what's going to happen. In fact, commentators from both the left (Tavis Smiley) and right (Joe Scarborough) on
Face The Nation this morning say that's what
should happen. Both observed that the American people spoke loudly in November, 2008 and gave the Democrats the legislative majority to do just about anything they want (until 2010, at least). Both the commentators as well as the members of Congress interviewed on the Sunday shows also say that "ramming it thru" is what is likely. It's just too bad that there is such an absence of statesmanship in the Congress to permit some meeting of the ideological minds. Short of that, something does need to be rammed thru to begin to correct our critical healthcare problems. If one side is trampled on as the result, so be it. The electorate has another chance to speak in 2010.
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Originally Posted by dklassen
...With any luck we'll get a TRUE conservative as president in 2012 and we can start undoing their damage. And I mean a TRUE conservative, not another Bush or McCain...
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Originally Posted by chelsea24
...don't bet the farm. The true conservative base is shrinking before our eyes. It's not gonna happen...
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If that's what the majority of Americans want, it'll happen. But if they vote as they have in many past elections, for the incumbents that are there and who have established the connections to raise campaign contributions to buy their way into re-election, like Chelsea said...it's not gonna happen. My reasons are in addition to those she cited (and will not reflect the way I intend to vote), but my conclusion is the same...it ain't gonna happen.