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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna
There you go again, Bucco. Please don't tell me what I will do or how I will react to a future political developments. You have been consistent in your criticism of this President and this administration, regardless of what they've done. In fact, it's hard to believe that anyone could be so consistently wrong, but your criticism is your right. But as you well know, Bucco, I have praised this administration when I think they've done well as I've been critical of some other things they've done. Please don't paint me into the same one-sided, ideologically-unyielding, and ignore-the-facts political posture you so consistently demonstrate.
Yep. That's exactly what's going to happen. In fact, commentators from both the left (Tavis Smiley) and right (Joe Scarborough) on Face The Nation this morning say that's what should happen. Both observed that the American people spoke loudly in November, 2008 and gave the Democrats the legislative majority to do just about anything they want (until 2010, at least). Both the commentators as well as the members of Congress interviewed on the Sunday shows also say that "ramming it thru" is what is likely. It's just too bad that there is such an absence of statesmanship in the Congress to permit some meeting of the ideological minds. Short of that, something does need to be rammed thru to begin to correct our critical healthcare problems. If one side is trampled on as the result, so be it. The electorate has another chance to speak in 2010.If that's what the majority of Americans want, it'll happen. But if they vote as they have in many past elections, for the incumbents that are there and who have established the connections to raise campaign contributions to buy their way into re-election, like Chelsea said...it's not gonna happen. My reasons are in addition to those she cited (and will not reflect the way I intend to vote), but my conclusion is the same...it ain't gonna happen.
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Ok...again I get this same old tired lecture...
There you go again, Bucco. Please don't tell me what I will do or how I will react to a future political developments. You have been consistent in your criticism of this President and this administration, regardless of what they've done. In fact, it's hard to believe that anyone could be so consistently wrong, but your criticism is your right. But as you well know, Bucco, I have praised this administration when I think they've done well as I've been critical of some other things they've done.
My comment on how you will react is simply based on your posts on this thread...it is how I think you feel. I have not, except MAYBE one time ever heard your criticize THIS PRESIDENT..I have heard you criticize strategy or underlings action, but I can be wrong, but except for his strategy never heard a criticism of his idealogy !
You can say that I have been wrong,
AND THIS IS YOUR RIGHT, but I am not wrong as he has been everything he said he would not be...tranparent, open, non political and he has told some whoppers.
And I will make it a point to come on when I think he has done something right...I tend to stay away from discussions on which I do not feel confident but on this man and his idealogy I feel VERY FIRM, but I promise you I will begin to come on to satisfy you and compliment him when I think he has done good (like for example his speech to the NAACP).
When we talk of ignoring facts, please include yourself in that...I am comfortable in my shoes saying I predicted EVERYTHING he is doing over a year ago. As with your link that began this thread, you spin it all one way....about the misinformation at the public hearings but you totally ignore any questions of this administrations mis information ! You only criticize strategy !
I am fully aware of how many on the far right have misconstrued facts and caused fear but I am also aware of what the WH and congress is doing with facts. I will never ever forgive the stimulus bill...a fraud in total... taking advantage of the fears of this country and that is what it was.(you probably excuse the President and blame only the congress...I do not) Bank bailouts...the only folks who made out in that was the banks !
I love it when folks like you say we need to "RAM" something through. Why does it have to be RAMMED through as you say, and I have no doubt of anything other than that happening.
You can say "If one side is trampled on as the result, so be it." I am not sure of who you speak but RAMMING it through is ALL we have seen much of in this adminstration, albeit only 7 months of it.
And finally as you want to call me so wrong...I think I am closer to correct than you by a long measure THUS FAR on how we both felt on election day.
MUCH MUCH CLOSER, but frankly I hope in the long run you win your battle with me !