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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby
Which expectations of decency? As a Jewish woman, "decency" means both men AND women covering themselves modestly. Long sleeves, no shorts, women don't wear pants at all, dresses and skirts only. Men wear a yarmulke and married women wear wigs or scarves that cover their hair (or shaved scalps). Men don't touch women at all in public, married couples must not sleep in the same bed or touch for the window of time that a woman enters and exits her menstrual cycle.
What's the matter - that's too much to expect? According to whom? Who died and made you boss of all things decent?
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Gimme' a break... You don't believe a word of that. You're citing Hassidic Jews, of which you most certainly are not one.
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Meanwhile back in modern non-Chassidic America - gays and lesbians exist. So do transgenders, non-binaries, and straight males and females who are into kinky sexual fetishes that have nothing to do with gender or sexual identity. Men have been wearing gowns and robes since before Rome was built, and Shakespeare plays were performed by men who played both male AND female parts, because women weren't permitted to perform in plays at the time. So there were lots of men in drag. Some of them were gay. Most of them were straight.
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All of which is completely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
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What's "decent" to you might be "stupid" to me. What's decent to me might be ungodly to you. But - I don't believe in your god, so I don't really care what you think is ungodly. It doesn't apply to me.
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Then stop claiming you're a Jew... You may be one ethnically, but you're not one culturally, nor religiously...