[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

no hyperbole there. . .

The save the planet movement started in the 60's and 70's and none of the predictions came remotely true. Most of this is propaganda for money by fear mongering. . . I think that the earth has been warming for thousands of years, mostly since the last ice age. . .

The thermometer with the current F/C calibration is not even 200 years old. . maybe 150 years. . quite a feat to extend the last 100 years of readings to the end of the earth.

What is not known with precision is how much is human activity and how much is natural planetary wobbling. . . remember, only 700 years ago amid the millions of years of earth history, the earth was first discovered NOT to be flat. . . and if the bulk of this is planetary wobble, you are wasting time and money on something you can't change. .

There are many other ways to better the environment locally, but save the earth has to be a global effort, otherwise, again, you are wasting time and money on something you can't change. .

Very true but we wait for facts lets just spend a few trillion and feel good about it.