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Originally Posted by Bill14564

FBI crime statistics
US Census Bureau data

In 2019 (most recent data available):
White:

• 76% of population
• 46% of murders
• 59% of violent crime (rape, robbery, aggravated assault)
• 59% of combined (murder numbers are small compared to the rest)

Black:

• 13% of population
• 51% of murders
• 36% of violent crime
• 36% of combined

So 76% and 12% wasn't close, 50% and 13% was close for murders, and 30% and 18% was close for violent crime.

My stop and frisk numbers were not quite right. I can't find the article that told me 14 out of 10,000 but other articles don't agree. It appears the number should be 1.6% of stops resulted in seizure of weapons. 12% of stops resulted in an arrest of some sort, and 88% of the people stopped were completely innocent.

Then, out of every 10,000 searches:

• 160 individuals were carrying weapons
• 1,200 people were arrested
• 8,800 people were determined to be acting suspiciously and were stopped and searched and found to be innocent

Again, when we are talking about violating an individual's constitutional rights, if we truly feel that, "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer," then we cannot accept a system that interferes with the rights of 10,000 citizens in order to remove weapons from 160 of them.

Thank you for proving my point. Murder 4 times higher than the representative percentage of population. 1200 arrests/10,000 stops. (Yes, I had posted 6x and could probably find that citation if I looked, but not a relevant difference)That is far MORE successful than I had dreamed. And does anyone consider getting briefly stopped as “suffering”? It’s the victims and families that suffer.