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Originally Posted by Bill14564
Again, your characterization of it being just an inconvenience is meaningless UNTIL IT ACTUALLY IS YOU who is stopped daily just for walking down the street. It is so, so easy to say, "if I were in that position," when you know full d*** well you AREN'T, AND LIKELY NEVER WILL BE, in that position. (If you are the exception, fine, but we will never know)
Target criminals all you like. Not every single brown person in the city is or was a criminal yet they are who were targeted by stop and frisk.
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There are now many elected and appointed officials who share your concerns and have redefined how the police operate these changes that have no bearing on ones Constitutional rights but discourage and curtail the street cops curiosity having resulted in making large section of many cities affected unlivable and other sections unsafe , this is evident by the families and businesses leaving those jurisdictions, just what probable cause is for a street stop depends on many factors and are so determined by the courts, When NY started "stop and frisk" I did not research it but from little I heard I did not think it would stand a court challenge, from what I know of "probable cause", current changes are not helping anyone but causing more problems