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Old 07-26-2023, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe View Post
There are now many elected and appointed officials who share your concerns and have redefined how the police operate these changes that have no bearing on ones Constitutional rights but discourage and curtail the street cops curiosity having resulted in making large section of many cities affected unlivable and other sections unsafe , this is evident by the families and businesses leaving those jurisdictions, just what probable cause is for a street stop depends on many factors and are so determined by the courts, When NY started "stop and frisk" I did not research it but from little I heard I did not think it would stand a court challenge, from what I know of "probable cause", current changes are not helping anyone but causing more problems
Unfortunately, the pendulum has always swung too far in this country.

Too much crime? Toughen up policing.
Tough policing results in abuses? Prosecute the police.
Prosecute the police for tough policing? Work slowdowns by the police.
Less policing? Crime increases.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

What we need are ways to get tough on crime that don't result in high levels of collateral damage. And, we need the community to recognize that the police are trying to make a difference without harming the non-criminals. Today we can't have those nice things.
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