According to KBB.com, the fair value for both of those vehicles is about $500 less than the MSRP. If I were buying one, I would get a copy of the window sticker for an acceptable vehicle on the lot, subtract $500 from the MSRP, and then add the sales tax (6 percent plus $50) and the title and tag transfer fees ($125). It wouldn't matter what dealer I went to, they could accept that amount or not. Why bother engaging in the dealer games, deceptions, worthless options, and bogus dealer fees?
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