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Originally Posted by Bill14564
The biggest issue I have with the proposal is the cost and inconvenience to residents hosting family members.
- I really don't want to accompany my mother in law to the yoga class she wants to attend
- I really don't want to pay $50 so that my nephew can go to the pool while I'm at another event
- My non-tech-savvy father in law will not be able to apply for his own which either leaves him without a pass or requires me to enter data as him
This would need Developer buy-in since the Developer (through the VCCDD and SLCDD boards) administers the amenities and guest passes.
This would require substantial IT support to create the new application pages.
This would probably not affect rentals of 30+ days since those guests are typically provided with temporary IDs (not passes) for their use. Unless, of course, the proposal would do away with the temporary IDs.
The proposal would be effective in making it prohibitively difficult to get a guest pass. It would make the Villages undesirable to renters who intended to use the pools but does that represent the majority of renters? Those that see the Villages as an inexpensive option for Disney lodging that also has nightly music might not be deterred at all.
Is this idea, or something similar, being effectively used elsewhere?
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You're right on all counts, other than it's not a "proposal". It was meant to be a starting point of a framework that could potentially provide a structure that might address the issues raised. I readily admitted I hardly use any TV amenities, so I have a lack of familiarity with them and their use.
Many communities use a similar system, that revolves around "access". Unfortunately, they're aren't many un-controlled (no HOA) communities of the size, scope and complexity as TV.
Given that there were over 500 posts on "controlling STR's", without a single realistic and substantive suggestion on how to do it, I just looked outside the box, for a way to get at it from the back-door. If you can control part of the attraction (amenities), you garner some measure of control over the inconveniences. As I posted before, in my other community, we took the "beach rights" away from renters. Didn't "solve" anything, but addressed one significant problem.
There is no practical way to control "occupancy" in the existing parts TV, that horse has left the barn. Besides, no one cares "who" is in a unit, they only care about their behavior. We can't directly control behavior either, but it's possible behavior can be managed with education and regulatory compliance.
A panacea? Nope. Easy? Nope. Process intensive? Yep. Fair? Depends on your perspective. Opponents of STR's want them to disappear, won't happen. Investors have rights too. Investors, tenants, residents, snowbirds, yankees and bubbas, all have to co-exist. TV (or anyplace in the world) doesn't belong to any particular group. Either live with the inconveniences or deal with trying to manage the prejudices of disparate constituencies.
The solution Villagers want for every problem, is for someone to wave a magic wand and make it go away. Lousy conditions at the golf courses? Poof! The Developer should just dump $50,000,000 at the problem. Won't happen.
People speeding on the MMP's? Poof! It goes away because folks complain on the internet!
Too many Snowbirds show up in January? Poof! Maybe there should be rules that stagger when Snowbirds are allowed to stay in their homes and spread them out through the calendar?
All those "outsiders" taking up parking spaces and personal space in the Squares? Why should Villagers have to accept that? That's like saying, screw those Indians, what did they ever do for our USA.
The best possible thing that could happen for The Villages, is to prohibit Internet service and internet forums. If folks had to vent their frustrations face to face, there'd be whole lot less complaining about nonsense.