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Old 10-06-2023, 10:25 AM
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I am sure you apply the same decision making to your view of religion. It is a very rare person who spouts their faith actually lives the tenets of that faith in each action they take. It is a very rare doctor who takes their own advice, it is a very rare cop who follows the law, it is a very rare politician who has ethics...

So your "believe in Global Warming" argument rejection must mean you reject medicine, religion, law enforcement.... or your argument is bogus.

Not even the most ardent rejectionist are now arguing there is no global warming event like they did a few years ago. Now the goalposts have moved and they accept that the planet is rapidly warming as there is now irrefutable evidence of that fact.

Instead it is now that humans play no role in that event or that it doesn't matter because it sure will be nice when it is warmer. You can see both of these arguments presented in this very thread. One person telling us that climate always changes, but ignoring that it does not change as rapidly as it is now without some major shift in the factors that control climate none of which have occurred other than humans burning fossil fuels and changing the amount of greenhouses gases.

Another poster telling us how wonderful hot earth will be because we will have such a nice diverse number of species.

Follow the money others pontificate... Yes, I am sure that those university adjuncts are rolling in cash now, way more that the profits of Exxon and Shell and BP an others, almost none of which is going to cleaning up or new investment or employee benefits. No those obscene profits are going into stock buy backs to increase the net worth of the CEOs and the 1% That is the money you need to be following. That is where the big bucks are.

I will await somebody posting how much those working on fixing the problem profited in 2022. And this is PROFIT not income.
First of all, that $200 billion profit pales in comparison to the 130 TRILLION the alarmists want to spend to "combat" climate change.

Secondly, I've made it absolutely clear that we have had cycles of global warming and cooling over a dozen times in the last 4.5 million years, that's an undeniable FACT

I DID NOT state that since the industrial revolution humans have not accelerated the natural cycle of our current warming.

I DID STATE that 8 or 30 or 200 years of data, even if the data is accurate (which it is not by the way, only the last 50 years is reliable) is nowhere near enough of a time frame to draw ANY conclusions. It is impossible to extrapolate 100 years into a prediction of a 100,000 year cycle. Now, how much are humans contributing?? Well, it's not 0% and it's not 100%. Best estimates from unbiasedclimatologists is that it is negligible. The best statement I found from a retired, well respected climatologist was that at most human activity will delay the next period of glaciation by 5-10,000 years, and that is due to the rise of agriculture in Asia over the past 8,000 years, NOT 150 years of industrialization. Is he right??? WHO KNOWS? The answer is NOBODY KNOWS, since we just don't have data that extends over a long enough interval to make projections. But I'm willing to bet the life of my granddaughter that she will not drown due to so-called "climate change" in her lifetime, or even her grandchildren's. Perhaps 1500 generations down the line, perhaps 2500. But will our descendants 50,000 years from now resemble what we accept today as human??? After all, 50,000 years ago we were Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons.