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Originally Posted by blueash
Would you like me to find 500 vaccine Covid deniers who are active or retired doctors? Would you find their videos convincing and say that the science is not well founded and that the vaccines were not well designed? Were the models "inadequate" Is Covid a "blessing" I cannot imagine any scientist citing "blessing" as an explanation for a science opinion.
The overwhelming number of people working on climate are on one side of the divide. A few are on the other. You get so upset and get very snarky about non MD on this thread claiming any expertise in medicine yet here you are, no background in climate yet you have the gall to do exactly what the Covid vaccine skeptics did and you soundly condemned them.
You have your mind made up, use the "shoving it down our throats" image, claim it is all a conspiracy of brain washed fools in it for the money. Their Big Pharma is your Big Climate.
And no, another lecture from you about the Pleistocene era does not ring any useful bells here. At least you have finally admitted that global warming is real. And that humans have an affect on what is happening.
The above statement that C02 is not a concern according to your experts is so bizarre that you should have immediately discarded their letter as junk science. Ask the planet Venus about C02. I certainly would call a byproduct of burning fossil fuels a pollutant.
If anyone wants to read the truth about C02 here is a useful website debunking the bunk being spread above.
As to whether climate models have been accurate in their prediction of future temperatures.. just google that question. NASA has a lovely set of graphs you can see Or maybe NASA and Columbia and Harvard and Japan and England and Australia etc etc are all part of the climate cabal that taught the Covid cabal everything about righteous argle bargle
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Please tell me you are not serious about comparing Earth with Venus. Apples and oranges. And I'm sorry that the climatological history of the past 4.5 million years, which explains why we are currently warming doesn't "ring your bell" And you know damn well about amateur physicians spouting out garbage---I don't think you identify with them. And "big pharma" was not something I ever embraced, and I suspect you didn't either. And I never claimed to be a climate expert, although I do have more background in paleoclimatology than most on this site.
As fat as the "graphs" go, as a scientist, you know 80 years is nowhere near enough data to extrapolate to 100,00 years. All along this has been my point----that NOBODY knows if and to what extent human activity is altering the trajectory of an already established natural climate cycle. The data has not been collected for long enough. Yes, the alarmists may be right, the so-called "deniers" may be right, or the truth most likely is somewhere in the middle. And just switching to EVs is unlikely to have any impact whatsoever.
I know we have been on opposite sides of some issues, but why the hostility??