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Originally Posted by PGApromike
Respectfully, Unless playing a tour course the day before or after an event, not likely to have ever played any course that stimps at 12. Some private high end clubs run these speeds, but not many public courses(maybe Pebble, Beth Page Black for example)will. I have been involved in measuring green speeds(30+ year PGA Member). It is quite a process and 10.5 is very quick. I would venture a guess that the TV greens run between 8.5 to possibly a 10. Fastest greens i have played locally isn't a Villages course, It's Continental CC. Very fast, smooth and not a bad spot on them. Again my post is respectful and not calling anyone out.
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If Greens in TV started running over 10.5, there may be a revolt by the players. Rounds would take 5 hours and Gimmes would be 6' and not the 3' they seem to be now.
I was a member at Fox Hollow for 6 years and Southern Hills Plantation for 5 years. Fox Hollow tried to be 10-10.5, Southern Hills about the same. They'd crank them to 11-11.5 for PGA/Korn Ferry Qualifying, but that was about the limit. As I'm sure you know, keeping Greens above 12, is ridiculously expensive. Probably an extra $7K-$10K per Green/year.