The greens in TV will NEVER roll at 12. You evidently dont know what putting on greens that fast is like. Thats PGA speed and if they ever did that here our 41/2 hour rounds would become 51/2 hours. The pin placements they are forced to use with this front middle back format wouldn't work on a lot of the greens. My CC home in Pa. has been a US OPEN qualifier 4 times the last 12 years and stimping our course at around 11 makes it a real tough test after those qualifiers are done with their rounds.
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