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Originally Posted by Maker
The medical world says for having a likely survival, the accepted maximum time delay before beginning CPR is 4 minutes. Beyond that, the chances go from low, to extremely rare plus having serious long term injury.
The numbers I have seen shows it is at least 6 minutes, and usually longer.
So having a community of people trained in CPR, all heading your way to fill the gap in time before the paramedics arrive, is going to make outcomes better. No question.
Having an AED also aids in monitoring the CPR process and issues voice directions to improve technique (rate and compression). It can also administer a shock if needed.
Now the paramedics arrive. I would welcome the paramedics to concentrate on doing advanced life support - administering drugs, oxygen, assessing for other treatments they can provide... instead of doing CPR themselves. Performing CPR is very tiring. Having many to share the work is the best way.
The overall goal is to increase the odds of survival, with the lowest amount of complications possible. The AED program does that.
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Are you supporting my point that the real benefit would be trained CPR neighbors not an AED device ?
I'm having a hard time believing that a neighborhood AED has a high probability of actual shock administered within a four minute window. Put a time estimate on these events prior to administration:
- Realization that the event is serious enough that one should place the 911 call
- Retrieving a phone and placing the call
- Relaying the information to the 911 operator
- 911 operator relays info to paramedics
- Paramedic triggers phone calls to trained AED neighbors.
- AED trained neighbors digest info
- AED trained neighbor gather personal belongings - keys, phone, hat, jacket, etc.
- AED trained neighbor leaves house (by foot / golf cart ?) and fetches AED
- AED trained neighbor goes from AED station to the house of victim
- AED trained neighbor communicates apron arrival at the house about situation
- AED trained neighbor hooks up device
- AED device does self diagnosis
- AED button is pushed
Is it possible all this in 4 minutes from the event start - maybe under ideal conditions
What percentage of time will all these steps occur in a private home situation (not the town square, rec center, etc) within the four minute window - my opinion very low percentage.