[katezbox]

OK - I have stayed out of this one for awhile, but here goes....

1. We need to remember that Havana CC is a business - it is not one of our neighbors playing music or TV too loud. Presumably they are providing entertainment to attract additional customers and generate additional revenue.

2. I understand where NJBlue is coming from - the country club was there before most of the homes, but not all. One of the best things about this forum is that it allows us to research, research, research. Buying a home near any public facility could always mean an increase in noise, traffic, etc. As Freeda points out, the law doesn't provide for protection against changes that do not not meet our expectations.

3. Whalen, I believe, did not mean a curfew in the literal sense. She meant that the early end of music was in effect a curfew. As more and more boomers move to TV, TV will need to change to meet this shifting demographic. The Morse family has done amazingly well by reading the market clearly - there is no reason to suspect that this will not continue.

4. It seems the real problem here is the lack of understanding about just what the rules are. Why are businesses being restricted from offering musical entertainment in the squares? What are reasonable limits on music at Havana and other country clubs?

Attendance at public hearings seems a good way to start. As a villager who still works, I have less passion about this now than I expect I will once I can retire. This group needs a leader. Sue Schuler offered her presentation skills - who will take her up on this to make something happen?

k