tophcfa...totally agree. Very messy trees...leaves, acorns, suckers. They are beautiful, lots of shade. Taking care of them on our property is a 6 month production. From about September/Oct to March or April is constant pick-up, raking, pulling. Back problems exist every day and every day is what you will have to do to keep your property looking nice. Why is it they are not planted in the southern areas and many, many in the northern areas? Hmmm
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