[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by mntlblok

Reminds me of the trip in a rented RV from Rome up to the Alps. Decided to tour Rome just before returning the RV. The apparent chaos actually gradually began to make some sense. Three lanes can be much more efficiently utilized if they're treated as being more like five. :-) Lots of the extra use was via motorbike. Maybe the most interesting aspect was the horn use. Got the distinct impression that a toot on a horn most likely meant "you go ahead". It was definitely "different".

The oddity that I never figured out was on the Italian version of the Autobahn , with me doing a dutifully relatively slow rate of speed in the right lane, each and every passing car - and some were *very* much faster - made it a point to pull into my right lane as closely as possible to my left front fender. What's up with that? Over all, upon returning the rented RV prior to hopping the cruise ship, I concluded that it had *not* been an adventure that I'd choose to repeat. Did not see any road signs in Switzerland written in English, making me give up on riding by the LHC. Did see that leaning tower of Galileo fame. Oh, and Switzerland has a *lot* of tunnels.

Not a fan of hearing the horns at the traffic circles. Fine if they help avoid a collision, but they can be discombobulating and confusing for others in the area that are not involved and can't tell whether they *should* know what the noise is about - especially when well aware there there's no shortage of idiots about who only *think* they have a valid reason for blowing it.

Would also opine that more threads on traffic circles is likely a *good* thing. They seem to always "out" several folks who have things exactly backwards. Possibly not the ideal means of education, but those folks were never going to "take the course", anyway. Wait. I guess the "course" is more about golf carts. Conflating things seems to have become my superpower. :-( Anyway, the video done by the local police officer on carts (I think) was most satisfactory, succinctly covering all the info that would be in the course. Dang. Can't locate that video. Anybody else?

In Rome a red light is more like a suggestion than anything else