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Old 11-27-2009, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by djplong View Post
You wanted some examples of Glenn Beck not telling the truth?

He said no other President had been sworn in without a Bible - and claimed he fact-checked it. John Quincy Adams used a law book. Franklin Pierce didn't "swear" (he 'affirmed'). Teddy Roosevelt didn't use a Bible.

He said that $1.4 million of stimulus momey was used to repair a door at Dyess AFB.
What he didn't say was that the doors repaired were aircraft hangar doors and the cost was not $1.4 million. The cost was $246K out of $1.4 million in repairs funding.

But let me give you one even more outrageous.

"John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, 'has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.'" -- Glenn Beck on Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009 in his TV program

Now for the truth.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...oldren-propos/

You wonder why I dismiss Glenn Beck?

I want to concentrate on the John Holdren item.

Let me first explain my inital post....my point was if you are going to call someone a liar, or even imply it, then you should be prepared to hear when those you support have supposed lies or overeggarations exposed. I never defended Beck as I do not know all of what he has said. Thus your attempt to show a lie strikes me as counter productive.

Secondly....the only reason I am replying is when I saw your source for the John Holdren story, of which I really was not even aware, I had to respond at least to tell you that POLITIFACT is an EXTREMELY left wing group.....it started in St Pete and I personally am aware of some of the folks who began it and how far left they lean.
BUT...it got my attention enough to read a bit about it. It appears that these commments DID exist in a text book with multiple authors. So he did say it but he didnt
This digging through writing from way back can be something cant it ? Imagine with all those fact checking Palin's book and calling her a liar, and it appears the only thing they have come up with....all those fact checkers...imagine 11 AP reporters fact checking a womans book while all other stories are ignored....anyway I guess they found only that she did in fact spend some money on ritzy hotels which she didnt deny....suppose the quote about not doing it much was not sufficient.

Now that is not meant as a defense of Palin or Beck nor a condemnation of Mr. Holdren. Just means we can get into a long big circle by igoring or making up our definition of context.

Again.....I get a bit upset when anyone is called a liar with no facts to back it...that was the intent of the thread.....politicians and pundits of both sides of the aisle are guilty of doing this and trying to make a case about one person is sort of a tireless act.

I would never have mentioned the critique of Obama except I happened to read this article the same day a few posters were insisting with no substance that Beck tells lies.

If we are to start threads calling out liars, this will be a laborious task since context is ignored and every single official in Washington will be mentioned even the ONE !!!