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Old 08-10-2024, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueblaze View Post
Right. Nobody would have ever built the computer you're typing on without a professional liar collecting a percentage of the price. And nobody would have produced the egg you ate this morning without a highly trained salesman to tell you that you'll die if you don't eat something.

The value that salesmen add is just the sheen of BS covering the actual value of any product. I spent years in college and apprenticeship before I wrote the GIS system my company sold to the Swiss post office for millions. I got a $200 "bonus" and a pat on the back for my efforts. The salesman who sold it got 5% of the sale. He had a 2-year degree from the local junior college and his previous job was selling used cars. But he was a nice guy with a gift for gab. What a rare talent!

Meanwhile Taylor Swift makes about 3% of anything she produces, and that's astronomical among recording artists. The salesmen get the rest. And everyone thinks that's normal.

I'm not saying that the world doesn't need salesmen. I'm saying that the reason salesmen get such obscene compensation for what they consider work has nothing to do with value. They get it because so many people are dumb enough to fall for a good grift. In my world, it was usually because the CEO came out of the Sales department and talked himself into the job, after the engineer who started the company cashed out. Is "Windows 11" a greater value than "Window 7", which does the exact same thing BETTER, on 1/3rd the hardware requirement? Is it a coincidence that Win 7 was the last OS produced when Gates was still running things?

I'm sorry if I've offended the salesmen reading this. I don't fault salesmen for taking the money. I fault people for letting them rig the system with stupid laws that make it possible. And I really don't like it when a salesman tries to pretend that selling a computer system has more "value" than building one.
It's obvious you're unhappy the you chose the wrong side of the pay program. You got paid to write software and your pay didn't depend on the company selling it and making a lot of money. If they had to throw it away because no one wanted to buy it ... you still got your pay.

The Sales person, like entrepreneurs, take the gamble that they can actually perform and produce at their job and they're willing to not get paid, if they don't.

No risk, no gain.