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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I don't mind congested areas if there are things to do that would attract such congestion, and -practical- economical alternatives to driving.

Boston and Manhattan are such areas. You can live just outside these cities, and take a subway in, and get a monthly pass for unlimited use of the entire system (other than express buses which I believe cost extra). Crazy congested but it's walkable, there are TONS of things to do, with some of the best health care in the world, foodie heaven, music, drama, culture galore, libraries that'd knock your socks off, more museums than Vegas has casinos.

But yes both places are insanely congested. The congestion is part of the culture of living there. Compare to Florida, where congestion is not part of the culture, because there really isn't much culture at all.

Once, twice maybe three times but then it's like been there, done that and the traffic sucks.