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Old 10-04-2024, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 View Post
It's pretty simple. Unions are created to help the union members. If automation hurts the union members, they are going to be opposed to it. If school choice hurts public school union teachers, the union will be opposed to it even if it hurts students. The union exists to represent the union members. Period.

Hey! You and I go back a long way — even if we have never met and have no idea who each other is.

Usually, I respect your opinions, but this time I must say when it comes to teachers’ unions, you have no idea what you are talking about. (I also know you will not report me to the admin as being a mean girl trying to scar your psyche. We’ll be OK.)

I must assume you have no problem with private money taking your tax money to promote their private agenda and run schools as a money-maker.

My guess is also that you do not know anything about how tenure works. All tenure protects is the right to due process.

AND I can tell you right now, and in no uncertain terms, that nobody wants to see bad teachers gone more than good teachers want bad teachers out.

IF (some) school administrators would get off their butts, get out of their offices, go into classrooms, and evaluate teachers on a regular basis, tenure would not be an issue if firing would be needed. Get that paper trail going and GET RID of the bad ones before they get to tenured status.

But nope. Lazy-azz principals love to holler, “TENURE!” and claim their hands are tied. NOT SO! It’s just that pesky due process they have to be ready for if they let a bad one go on and on and on. Tenured teachers can be fired, but principals have to do a little work if they have allowed tenured status to be reached. Due process. That is what tenure protects. But teachers cannot fire other teachers. Administrators need to do their jobs from the beginning.

Maybe I will return later and patiently explain how being an excellent teacher but having reached the top of the salary scale could bite one in the azz if it were not for tenured status. I bet you can figure that one out, anyway.

Well, enough from me. I am scheduled to go hang out with people I can actually see. Retired teachers will be among them.

Boomer
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