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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby
No, that's not the problem. The problem is multi-fold:
1) there are people who adamantly deny that it's happening at all.
2) there are people who acknowledge that it's happening, but adamantly insist that there's nothing anyone can do about it.
3) there are people who acknowledge that it's happening, and then toss in the red herring that the problem is that no one can STOP it - as if that was the only possible option.
The fact is:
1. It's happening.
2. We are CONTRIBUTING to it, and not causing it. It'd happen whether we contributed or not, but we are, and that leads people to conclude that our contribution is the only thing we can address, which I am sure is true.
3. There are things we absolutely CAN do to slow it down. However, the attempt needs global participation and we can't even agree within our own country that it's something that needs to happen at all, let alone how. There's no way the entire planet will agree that it's a problem, we've contributed to it, and we can slow it down, and then take those steps to slow it down.
ALL of those things must happen. a) we have to ALL see that it's a problem. b) we have to ALL acknowledge that we contributed to it. c) we have to ALL agree that we can slow it down. d) we have to DO those things to slow it down.
If all 4 things don't happen on a global scale, then the entire argument is moot. Pray for the descendants of your great-great grandchildren. They'll be inheriting a damaged planet that can no longer recover, but could've been livable for another 10-100 generations if we had taken steps NOW to slow down the damage.
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I agree with much of what you say. Global warming is happening. It has been since the last Ice age. So, without technology and hordes of people the word decided to warm. The glaciers that were comfortable over a good portion of the current US just decided to retreat and start to warm the planet, raise the ocean level.
That actually enhanced the opportunity of Humanoids to expand and develop our civilization.
But this all happened before the human influence. So now we start to blame humans for global warming. I agree that creating large metropolises can create heat sinks, burning down rain forests can cause a loss of cooling, chemical processes and fossil fuels can create possible impacts to the atmosphere that enhance global heating, but that is a consequence of the initial start of global warming.
Yes, we should do our due diligence to minimize our impact, but as you said it is happening.
But, let us not be stupid and initiate programs based upon hope rather than fact.
Expecting that the earth is still the master, we need to do smart things. Example, with the earth having rising oceans for more than 10,000 years, why should we expect change.
Is there any plan that we could establish that will definitely change the trend?
Climate trends can be caused by natural order. We need to continually adapt.