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Originally Posted by djplong
Gee - we want OUR law enforcement agencies recognized overseas to have 'law enforcement privileges'. Yet when the same move is made so that Interpol (which has a far better track record than we do) can reciprocate, we are giving up our sovereignty. ?
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Gee - you really missed the point. You do not understand that Obama's actions had nothing to do with reciprocation. Read the actual amendment that is referred to in the links attached. I will spare my posting friends and antagonists alike, the sufferance of repeating the concerns registered in my original post. Please feel free to reread them and counter on the points I cited, not contrived, abstract and largely irrelevant distractions from the issue. I have enjoyed your posting style even if I don't agree with some of your posts. This is not your best effort.
Interpol has been in existence since 1923. Our law enforcement professionals have been a part of Interpol for a long time. That would tend to mitigate your "reciprocity" and "privileges" points as both conditions already exist. Having spent 44 years in government and law enforcement service, I am curious on what criteria you base your assertion that "they" have a better track record. My professional experience in criminal justice and law enforcement, supplemented and including "moonlighting" for 10 years as a professor of Criminal Justice, a State Police Training Commissioner, and a Police Academy Director doesn't quite reconcile with your bold assessment.
I request you revisit my OP as I thought my usage of the King's English was quite clear about my concerns. You dodged them completely in a hip shot response that was not up to your usual quality post. I suggest you really read the links so you can debate the context of the concern with the amendments Obama passed "in the middle of the night". I respect your opinion even if we do not agree, but, please attack the core of the issue, not talking points from the left. I enjoy listening to good arguments that conflict with my own views. I have learned a lot from them. My mother was from Boston and worked for JFK. My father was from Newark and supported Barry Goldwater. I learned early on to respect opposing views.
You have railed in the past against wiretap evidence. Yet, you defend the unprecedented immunity, on American soil, that Obama has given to a world law enforcement agency, including American law enforcement in their ranks. He did this with calculated stealth. The factual result is inesapable and in my opinion, indefensible. With the stroke of a pen he rescinded prior agreements that gave American citizens and taxpayers Constitutional protections. He has manifestly, unilateraly and arbitrarily redefined American sovereignty, The Constitution and the Bill of Rights. This was done without the consent of Congress or more importantly, the people. He has imposed qualified exceptions on those protections. Is that legal?
If the original amendments were put in place to protect Americans and American sovereignty....why was it necessary for Obama to alter them?
Will you sleep better tonight knowing that Interpol, and agents from its 188 nation state members have been given extraordinary immunity from our Constitution while engaged on our soil.
By the way, perhaps this research effort into Interpol membership will permit you to sleep better. Included in that elite World Police membership are representatives from, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iran, Somalia, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. etc.
Gee, I feel so much better knowing that as you suggest, Obama, with the stroke of his pen, has given Iran agents privileges and immunity on American soil while exercising their "membership". Yeah....I know, that's an exaggeration, a stretch and as Chelsea would say, the use of fear to make a point. Really, that could never happen.....right? Hmmm.....
BTW, are you a Seminar Poster? Just curious.
Seminar Caller/poster -
A seminar caller is someone who telephones a conservative radio talk show for the purpose of astroturfing, which is the mass promotion of a particular product, service, or opposing political point of view as if it were genuinely spontaneous, or grassroots.
Many seminar callers try to portray themselves as regular people, claim to agree with the host's point of view, then begin to read a contrary opinion from an agenda or list of talking points widely circulated by a group or organization who oppose the views of the host.
Seminar callers get their name from the seminars they attend to learn how to most effectively get their message on the air. From Wikipedia.