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Originally Posted by Rwirish
No, it is not golf. It is pitch and putt.
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Originally Posted by phylt
I JUST KNEW!!! After seeing the Thread title, that some would scoff at this.
The Champ players scoff at Executive play.
The Champ and Executive scoff at P&P.
I find it appalling when folks look down at others. Easy example is some of the previous responses.
Mat play - So what? No chewed up grounds to drive from. Shorter holes - So what? good short game practice. Only 2 clubs - So wrong. Depends upon the skill and ability of the golfer.
P&P is GREAT for short game practice and FUN. P&P is relaxing and can be challenging for some. It's a nice walk for 9 or 18 holes.
Why look down on P&P? Florida's Friendliest Home Town hits yet again.
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Originally Posted by Danube
What I get from the Real Golfers here is that no Real Golfer would EVER hit from a mat or play on a P&P course. Those are for losers.
And don't even mention miniature aka putt-putt "golf".
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Originally Posted by phylt
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---sorry. word games. Semantics. "If you're not playing the game as it's regulated, you're not playing "golf". All types of car racing. I really don't care if it's NASCAR or anything else. Tennis on clay, cement, grass, or anything else.
IMO - just have fun playing golf. Whether it's putting on a putting course. Or Pitch&Putt on those courses. Pick up a club and go to a driving range (even off mats...) Or drive a Par 5 at 500 yards. Or a Par 3 at 120 yards. Go out and have fun. And BTW - watch the new TGL - indoor projection golf. It's ALL great. I simply do not understand, or agree with, looking down on having fun playing GOLF.
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Originally Posted by Rainger99
And wouldn’t a P&P tournament be an initiative to grow the game for those people who aren’t good enough to play championship tournaments?
Please note that people would not be required to play in a P&P tournament. It would be voluntary.
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I'm all in for Exec "golf" & Pitch & Putt "golf" or any other sport folks want to play at or learn. I'm merely pointing out the fact that using the same word for traditional USGA Golf and the various versions available in The Villages, leads to some of the attitudes that surround the subject.
Things like hearing about all the "Hole in Ones", that were nothing more than simple chip shots, at a P&P course. Or folks complaining on either side of the Dress Code issue, as it applies to Exec courses.
I think it would be different, if there were different names. No one confuses softball with baseball. No one confuses pickleball with tennis. No one should be looking down on folks who play the P&P courses or Exec courses, but when those players put themselves and their accomplishments into the same category as those who play the Championship courses, the disconnect or derision is inevitable.
Golf is very difficult game. Golfers spend huge amounts of time, money & effort to become reasonably proficient at it. In my opinion, anyone who carries a single digit handicap, is a good golfer. I'm under a 5.0 Index. I made a HIO in TV last year. 172 Yards. One of the guys in the group I was playing with, told me he had 11 HIO's. When he was out of earshot, his friend told me that he usually plays P&P courses or Exec courses and counts those. It's not the same thing and hearing it, irks most golfers who take the game seriously.
I'll use the drone analogy again. When I hear a drone operator calling himself a "pilot", my blood boils. Getting a certificate to fly a drone, is not much more demanding than getting a license to drive a car. Trust me, getting a real Airmen's Certificate to fly an airplane, is entirely different process and not so easy or cheap.
Then again, in the social media world, CNA's call themselves "Medical Professionals" so I guess it's not just golf or flying.