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I get the frustration; the situation in cities like NYC and Chicago is certainly complex, but some of these claims need clarification.

Yes, there have been cases where cities have provided temporary shelter (including hotel rooms) and basic necessities to migrants, especially during recent surges. But these are emergency measures, often coordinated with nonprofits or funded partially through state or federal aid, not blanket “free perks.”
Emergency measures? LOL, they were put up in those hotels for months.

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Free schools? That’s been the law since the 1982 Plyler v. Doe Supreme Court ruling — all children, regardless of immigration status, have the right to public education.
So what? It's still the taxpayers supporting it and is a huge burden on the teachers, the system and the other students,

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Health care? Undocumented immigrants can’t access Medicare, Medicaid, or ACA plans in most cases. They can only get emergency treatment, which hospitals are legally required to provide.
See JMintzer's post.

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Free phones? That’s a misunderstanding. Phones are sometimes issued to asylum seekers as part of a tracking system — not for personal use, but to ensure they attend court hearings.
False. Phones provided to all. If you have proof otherwise, please provide it.

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Free food? Some food assistance comes from local charities or short-term programs, not long-term taxpayer-funded benefits like SNAP, which undocumented immigrants don’t qualify for.
Not sure about this one, also please provide data. I assume the city is paying for it unless I see otherwise. NYC and Chicago have spent billions. Money is going somewhere (besides just cronies' pockets).

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Also worth noting: undocumented immigrants pay billions in taxes every year through sales tax, property tax (even when renting), and even payroll tax if they’re working under borrowed or fake SSNs. Yet they can’t claim most public benefits.
Payroll: Not if they're being paid under the table. Property: They don't rent, they get free housing. Sales: Yes, you are correct on that one.

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There’s room for debate on how best to manage immigration, but we need to be clear on the facts if we’re going to have an honest conversation.
Not really, they are here ILLEGALLY, which is a crime. Come by legal channels and we can debate.