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Old 05-31-2025, 08:14 AM
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I doubt many of you can understand the topic...Or probably didn't even watch the video.

Talk about religious dogma.
Of course I understand. I used to be a believer. And do you know how many videos on youtube there are espsousing the carnivore diet or something similar? There is no doubt that in the short term you will lose weight and some cherry picked bio markers will improve but that is not a credible way to evaluate a diet strategy. Show me evidence from, randomized control trials, cohort studies, cross sectional population studies, or meta analysis and systematic reviews that it extends life span and reduces the odds of being afflicted with major diseases.

Show me the videos where your kidney function doesn't degrade over decades of eating mostly animal protein.
Red Meat Intake and Risk of ESRD - PubMed
Red meat intake strongly associated with ESRD risk in a dose-dependent manner (hazard ratio for highest quartile versus lowest quartile,1.40 [95% CI, 1.15 to 1.71; Ptrend<0.001]).

Or that it doesn't increase the chance of cancer over the long term.
Consumption of red meat and processed meat and cancer incidence: a systematic review and meta-analysis of prospective studies - PubMed
This comprehensive systematic review and meta-analysis study showed that high red meat intake was positively associated with risk of breast cancer, endometrial cancer, colorectal cancer, colon cancer, rectal cancer, lung cancer, and hepatocellular carcinoma, and high processed meat intake was positively associated with risk of breast, colorectal, colon, rectal, and lung cancers. Higher risk of colorectal, colon, rectal, lung, and renal cell cancers were also observed with high total red and processed meat consumption.

I have been on a plant based diet for about 12 years and have experienced all the benefits you claim that comes from a carnivore diet and more. Every meaningful bio marker has improved and is in range. My PSA dropped to .7, lost most of my fat, never have any food urges (except for sweets). And best of all there are hundreds of peer reviewed studies that predicted the success I have achieved. They include proof that statistically my diet will extend lifespan and dramatically reduce the incidence of major diseases. Plant-based diet and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysisPlant-based diet and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed


So please find the similar studies that will validate your YouTube hero's claim. It should show results like these:
Results: We identified 28 publications that included a total of over 2.21 million participants. Adhering to the EAT-Lancet dietary patterns was negatively associated with diabetes, CVD (mortality), all-cause mortality, and cancer (mortality), with HRs of 0.78 (95 % CI: 0.65-0.92), 0.84 (95 % CI: 0.81-0.87), 0.83 (95 % CI: 0.78-0.89), and 0.86 (95 % CI: 0.80-0.92), respectively. Significant heterogeneity was observed for diabetes (I2 = 94.0 %), all-cause mortality (I2 = 85.5 %), and cancer incidence (I2 = 79.3 %). Importantly, no evidence of publication bias was found for any of the clinical outcomes analyzed. Sensitivity analyses confirmed the robustness of the results across various dietary scoring systems for CVD mortality, all-cause mortality, and cancer.
Conclusion: Following the EAT-Lancet diet was significantly associated with reduced odds of diabetes, CVD, cancer and mortality. These findings are clinically important, highlighting the beneficial effects of the recent EAT-Lancet diet on various health outcomes.Emerging EAT-Lancet planetary health diet is associated with major cardiovascular diseases and all-cause mortality: A global systematic review and meta-analysis - PubMed