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Old 08-17-2025, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby View Post
The one your doctor's billing department chose was the wrong one. The one they were supposed to choose should have resulted in a $146 payment, not a $197 payment (and not the bare-bones $143 payment either).

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The "issue" with this incident of overpayment has to do with billing codes. Not RAF or PMPMs or guaranteed minimum monthly payments to the Health Center. It is specifically a billing code error.

Start there, and work your way back.
I was told today, by someone who used to do this for a living, that your characterization of how it works, is incorrect for Medicare Advantage Plans.


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If a Medicare Advantage (MA) plan spends more on a particular patient than its capitation rate, the plan itself is responsible for covering the excess cost.

That is why UHC's profits fell 19% last year.
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You say that the issue has to do with billing codes - not RAF or PMPMs.

This is from the Villages Health bankruptcy filing. They are claiming that.

TVH receives a monthly payment per member (“PMPM”) for each MA beneficiary that it treats. The PMPM amount that Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) pays MA plans depend on a number of risk adjustments factors (“RAF Scores”) that are meant to reflect the illness level of patients. Generally speaking, MA plans receive higher PMPM payments for patients who have higher RAF Scores and are anticipated to have higher medical expenses than patients with lower RAF Scores. Hierarchical Condition Categories (“HCC”) codes are a significant input in the calculation of RAF Scores. Through its contracts with MA plans, TVH generally receives larger payments for beneficiaries with higher RAF Scores.

They are ones talking about PMPMs and RAF scores. In fact, I never heard of either term before yesterday.

Are you saying that the Villages Health lawyers are mistaken? That it wasn't about PMPMs or RAF scores?
That same person told me today, you are correct in the way Medicare Advantage Plans get paid. It's all about the patient's "score". Artificially "boosting" scores is how the Insurers/providers make more money.

The person I spoke with was convicted of Medicare Fraud and lost his medical license, so I suspect he knows what he's talking about.
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