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Old 08-19-2025, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles View Post
Sorry, but wrong. What was described isn't far off for procedures like an MRI, where there is in fact a technical and professional component. But that in no way applies to the E&M codes used in primary care and other specialties. Furthermore , those E&M codes apply to billing for traditional Medicare, but not for Medicare Advantage Plans which are capitated. Please don't contribute to the plethora of misinformation already floating around this site.
The wording below by Luria is vague enough "did not appear to be supported by a sufficiently documented clinical basis" that this could be more about a lack of documentation than incorrect entries. We won't know until there are more details presented. I also wonder how much this has to do with the changes made in 2018, 2021, etc. regarding documentation and whether the entire staff kept up with the changes. I know from nearly 40 years in radiation oncology there are more than a small number of people that have different options on coding matters.
Outpatient E/M Coding Simplified | AAFP

Lastly, in the physician groups I've worked with, they not only selected the ICD code, but they also itemized the codes that would be charged (both for pre-auth and giving the patient their good faith estimates for care) as well as dictated the documentation justifying all charges.

"TVH Chief Restructuring Officer Neil Luria said in a July 3 court filing that last year the company hired outside law firms and FTI Consulting Inc. to evaluate the accuracy of the health-care provider’s coding and to investigate any potential over-payments related to Medicare.

That investigation “identified codes TVH submitted that did not appear to be supported by a sufficiently documented clinical basis,” Luria said. The inquiry also identified amendments to patient medical records “appear to have been inconsistent with [the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] guidance and based on a misunderstanding of the relevant guidance on medical record amendments, including when it is appropriate to amend a patient record more than 90 days after an encounter,” he said."