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Originally Posted by jrref
Thanks for the facts. If you read car reviews concerning longevity, repairs, etc., Kia/Hyundai have a terrible track record. Good cars but generally not for the long run.
Human nature is what it is meaning, generally everyone is looking for a "deal" without considering the quality of what they are purchasing. So, the cheaper the better and that's where Kia/Hundai fall. I'm not saying our american cars are a lot better but in general the Korean car market is lower on the totem pole.
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Originally Posted by Aces4
I'm not impressed by snobbery but by reliability, styling and features. KIA makes some great vehicles, pricing is better and their warrantees are honored. Yeah, my Lexus RX had a beautiful price tag, a lot of bells and whistles of which 80% I don't care for and I don't have to sit in a massage chair with snackies and beverages to have my vehicle serviced every time. There is a lot of room in the market for Kia vehicles and I'm more impressed by the product than by the snobbery. Pretentiousness isn't my bag.
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When I said there were "Tiers", I wasn't necessarily referencing "quality".
The Tiers are based on public perception, time in the market, customer satisfaction, dealer profitability, Manufacturer support ... a lot of things go into the equation and manufacturers (name plates) move up and down.
It was that long ago, Subaru was a 3rd Tier, now I'd put it in the 2nd Tier, depending on geographical location. VW has move up & down between 2/3. Hyundai is now upper echelon of Tier 3, Genesis has helped it.
Not everyone will agree with how our organization sees the Tiers, but we represent almost all the 2nd Tier Manufacturers, with only Mazda being marginally out of that Tier.
There's more than enough room in the market for Kia. I was perfectly fine spending 100K+ for my BMW and when it's been serviced, I better be sitting in a leather lounge chair, while I'm waiting for them to bring me my loaner BMW. Same with my Acura (bottom 1st Tier).