We have been driving a Toyota or Honda for over 30 years. Last year when it was time to trade cars, I was shocked to see that Toyota wanted 4-10 thousands above MSRP.. So I purchased a Tesla, who does not have dealerships, and thus no ridicules add on added dealer profit fees.
I selected the exact vehicle I want online and was shown the price would be out the door. It had taxes and a tag fee of $495.. I was surprised when a few weeks after the purchase I received a refund of $270 something of that tag fee I had paid.
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