[Pturner]

Originally Posted by BB14616

I respectfully disagree. True, we've had a lot of frost, but rye grass is not affected by frost, and had they overseeded properly, the frost shouldn't have been an issue. We've had plenty of frosts other years as well, and nowhere near the poor conditions on fairways and greens. Also, look at the greens where there aren't any problems - for example the putting green at Sarasota, and greens at nearby golf courses such as Del Webb. They all experienced the bad winter weather and heavy play, and those greens are excellent. Logic tells me that the weather was not the problem. I could see if you want to blame a few bare spots on some of the greens on the weather, but using Orange Blossom as an example, there is more going on than the weather. And to say they haven't received much negative feedback from the players, is just untrue. Must be they're not listening to the players.

According to numerous sources (google search), frost can affect rye grass. Here in Atlanta, dh and I have a golf membership that includes privileges at 18 courses. All are over seeded with winter rye. All seemed affected by sustained periods of frost; some more than others. On individual courses, some holes are in terrible shape and some are in very good shape. Same course manager, same course.

When I spoke with logic, I thought she told me that weather was a significant factor. She also said that slope, amount and time of day of sunlight vs. shade and other factors conspire to affect different courses and different areas of the same course. She even confided that, in the worse economic downturn since the Big One, management has had to curtail expenses.

For some reason, she didn't tell me whether the "powers that be" are indifferent, whether they are balancing a host of challenges and priorities, or whether someone made an "untrue" statement about the relative amount of feedback he or she was aware of.

She did say, "PT, think about it. To whom would you rather open your door-- the bearer of honey or vinegar?"

If I understood logic correctly, I thought she made some good points.