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Old 03-19-2010, 04:37 PM
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Your cold, cavalier sweeping "hit job" on Vets and the elderly on Medicare,"won't let their Medicare or VA benefits go until they're torn from their cold, dead hands " certainly is not reflective of the "deep thinking" contained in your usual work.

There is a quantum difference with those who earned and contributed to the government programs they now receive benefits from. Those now on Medicare carried the system with their payroll deductions and Vets earned every benefit they receive the hard way. The 30+ million people the liberals want to put on the dole for the most part did not and do not contribute. It is unlikely they served their country or they would be receiving benefits. I don't know many veterans that would appreciate your condescending characterization of them. Are you a vet?

The worst part of the government takeover is that it will be at the expense of those that earned it. Obamacare requires a $500 billion cut in Medicare benefits. "Cost effective" medicine is a key component of Obamacare. You know about that, right? Caregivers will consider factors like age and ability to contribute to society. Accordingly, the ailing elderly, especially heart and cancer patients will be given "happy" pills allowing them to proceed quickly to the end of life without all those pesky, expensive tests and procedures. It's really a twofer. It will speed up the reduction of those eligible for social security. Now that, like your post, is coldly efficient. Of course those expensive procedures and technological medical advances will be saved for the more deserving.....like unions, political allies and Congress. I take full attribution for those...how did you put it...."soundbites".

BK - Yes, the government already has significant control of health care as you point. Now....they want it all. I hate other people, especially leftists, or the government telling me how to spend my money. It's part of the same logic and ideology demonstrated when VK and his liberal fiends supported buying $23 billion dollars of computers so every American can have one....see related thread....let them pass the hat to those who agree with them. Don't spend my tax dollars on "feel good" gifts for votes in the middle of arguably the greatest economic crisis in our history so some limousine liberal can appease his guilt and feel better. I am not suggesting VK is a limousine liberal but I suspect a few are lurking.

God Bless Our Troops
See my post above... the Haves (us) already provide for the Have-Nots (how and why someone is a have not is grist for the mill). The Obama administration feels, related to healthcare... oh, and now college aid... it's currently not enough and they can do it better. How and how much The Haves take care of The Have-Nots will be with us forever (Dickens- A Christmas Story). That is, unless we do become a completely socialist gov't and economy. Then the question will be answered. The govt will be the only Have.... we will all be Have-Nots and what we end up with will be what is provided to us by The Have (the govt). Decide how you want it.