Donna2,
I hate to keep citing your posts to disagree, but you have once again made a most uncharitable, outrageous, myopic generalization about 30 million of your neighbors. It betrays your true bias and stereotypical thinking.

Most of those 30 million people work hard at being contributing, law-abiding members of society. Some of them go to your church, live on your street, and would offer you help any time you asked. They work at part-time jobs, many more than one, pay taxes of all sorts and contribute to medicare and social security. It's all they can get at this time. Many literally have to decide about buying housing and food or health insurance. And I'm not even talking about the unlucky people who lose their savings, homes and jobs because they get sick.

Since you condemn the lazy non-contributors, have you ever stopped to think how many hundreds of thousands of Americans have never worked a day in their lives (or retired at age 28), and live strictly off of the money they inherited, stole or won? Do you realize there may be just as many of those people as there are poor lazy non-contributors.

Instead of all the extreme generalizations, let's recognize what will be a large source of revenue to help the disadvantaged obtain health care. The wealthy who either work and earn a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR!!, or sit around and earn that much and more, will be required to increase their payments so that millions of deserving people can have decent health care. Here is one thing I feel certain about: those increases will not change the lifestyles of the contributors even one teeny, tiny bit. That is unless you think choosing a 75 ft. instead of an 80 ft yacht constitutes life change.

I'm certain you have health insurance, like many of us middle class fortunate ones. Under health care reform your insurance costs and mine will be more stable than if there is no change. Will premiums increase for you and me in the next few years? Probably. (but probably not as much as in the last few years. Here's another thing I feel certain about: with the proposed reforms in place any increases in the premiums you and I pay will not change our lifestyle.

The recurring argument that it is "wrong to take any money I earned out of my pocket to pay help pay for someone else's benefit" is wrong for at least these reasons: 1) It ignores the fact that the nation's stability, prosperity, and protection of individual freedom in many cases made it possible for us to work, earn and parlay that into a high standard of living, beyond work into retirement. 2) Those of us who achieved the comforts we have were lucky. There are many unlucky circumstances which could have taken away all of our comforts, and millions of real people just like us who have suffered from those unlucky circumstances. 3) If we are to continue to be a united nation, not at risk of revolution and chaos, we must pull together to make sure citizens are not disenfranchised, politically, socially or economically.[/QUOTE]

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I sure dont want to get into an arguement with you on numbers or your feeling that folks opposed to his health bill are somehow folks who dont want to "pull together" or are unsympathetic which seems to ALWAYS be the way on here if you oppose anothe give away program.

HOWEVER...last numbers I saw were that OVER 20% of the uninsured can afford it but dont want it or are covered by other government insurance....MOST of the uninusred are healthy 18-24 year olds who dont want insurance because they dont want it.

There are for sure those who cannot afford health insurance and need coverage...but do not try and make it seem like anywhere near 30 million are walking around poor and without any insurance and sick as a dog. It is not true.

HOWEVER, this bill will ADD a premium to those who dont want it because they have to take it.

Now, my biggest complaint with yourpost and others is to paint anyone who is opposed to this bill, as some kind of heartless cold person.....you sound exactly like one of the party folks who want to make the guy who doesnt agree with you as a bad guy...I had enough of that during the campaign when every other post either said or intimated I was a racist. You can have your opinion but dont you dare even hint that I dont care about folks...you have no idea what we (those opposed) have contributed in time and moneyto those less fortunate !