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Old 03-22-2010, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco View Post
You obviously are all giddy today but you TOTALLY 100% missed what he said.......he was talking about the dirty, corrupt process that was used to get this bill passed in WASH !

You may be interested...I am not sure how many,IF ANY of the democrats from Mass voted for this bill, and you may also be interested to know that the Dem governor who followed up there eliminated a provision in that bill to provide transparency which has driven up costs.

I would also suggest that you lay the plans side by side and you will see the differences.

AGAIN....The point of the thread is the dirty PROCESS used, so please read it again and respond !
This "dirty process" tag is just another example of your conviction which was in place before the President was elected and, it appears, you will under no circumstances change, regardless of the facts.

The process by which health care reform occurred is better described as open and egalitarian, especially in comparison to how previous major legislation was enacted. If you study history you know that "great" Presidents like Lincoln and the Roosevelts really did some serious arm twisting. Lyndon Johnson had congressmen by the throats, (and other body parts), virtually dictating the monumental civil rights laws. And JQ Public had little or no information about what was happening while those events unfolded. By your definition those were "dirty processes" yet there is overwhelming consensus that the legislation passed under those circumstances were important, positive steps in our nation's progress.

In contrast, health care reform was an announced goal from Day 1. Knowledgeable people from all backgrounds and political persuasions were invited to contribute their ideas. Eventually, a bill, with provisions from Republicans and Democrats was drafted and published everywhere. Members of both parties suggested revisions and even things the President really wanted, (like the public option), were compromised. In the end, the bills in both houses retained the fundamentally important elements needed to make this a good initial piece of legislation. The process was more open than perhaps any other act of Congress in history, and I confidently predict, while many of us are still living, the new law will be judged another important step in our nation's progress.

The Republicans boxed themselves in early. Leaders like Romney dredged up every conceivable scare tactic and half-truth to discredit every piece of the proposal, just to defeat it at any cost. The rank-in-file followed along like sheep because they knew there would be a death penalty for breaking solidarity. The Republicans used the same tactic they used during the 90's and previously, fueled by millions of special interest dollars. And because they knew it would take at least a year to go through the process, they had time to add the frenzied effort to incite the citizenry. It just didn't work this time. Last evening, the best they could muster was a few thousand supporters spewing hatred and threats, and a "distinguished gentlemen" calling his pro-life colleague a "baby killer".

If you know Romney's history, surely you understand why he would make such an extreme political statement today. I would think you would see through the exaggerated wording and obvious political motivation instead of adopting it as your rationale for an objective judgement of the reform bill.