[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Pturner

Gee, I don't think anybody is talking about 31 days instead of 30. (The specific example in the initial question was about a child visiting for 25 days, leaving, returning for 25 days.)

I have two issues with this. The smaller one BY FAR is: Say only 20 percent of Villagers believe the rules don't apply to them. Today that would be about 16,000 Villagers. Now 16,000 kids overstaying an extra month here and an extra month there, on top of the allowable visitations, is significant.

I agree with Redwitch about isolated hardship cases. But the attitude, oh, who would know if I let my grandchild visit for two months-- no. It adds up. By all means visit your grandkids often. Invite them down for a month. But please, respect your neighbors and the covenance you signed your name to.

The larger issue to me BY FAR is, what the heck are we teaching our children anymore. My parents taught us not to lie and cheat. They set the example. They would never in a million years let us catch them lying or cheating, nor tolerate it if we did. How else do children learn integrity?

YES, we are talking about a little white lie here. Getting a visitor pass under a false name, or however you pull it off. So now the grandchild has a false name on his or her visitor pass. Do you then tell the child to use a different name on the second visit? Do you let your grandchild catch you in a lie!? Can you then teach him or her not to lie and cheat?

Sure, everyone tells little white lies. But in front of the grandchildren? Really?

I believe that you are completely and absolutely right.