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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1
cologal quote: "...That the facts....not what people thought but the facts you cannot change the facts. No matter how many quotes you throw at me. History has proven all those people wrong. I was out there protesting the war because I didn't believe the hype and I was correct you all were wrong. End of story. So many young man and women have been lost and wounded, my nephew among them, and still you all still hang on to this BS...."
So somehow you knew the "truth" when even leaders in other countries and members of the US Congress believed the PR lies. Okay, Bush came before the American people and said things that were believed to be true at the time and they turned out to not be factual.
It does seem hypocritical to defend untruths that come from Obama's Whitehouse by saying Obama isn't lying if he didn't directly speak the words and/or if that is what he believed and was told at the time.
No disrespect, I have always told you how proud I am of your nephew and been sympathetic with you over him being in harms' way every time you mention him. Pulling at the heartstrings of patriotic Americans, like me, by using a soldier and in the same breath talking about protesting a war is beyond my comprehension. Wonder how the troops who didn't have your clairvoyant powers to see through the lies felt to see people protesting a job they were proudly doing?
Did you protest Obama's surge in troops in Afghanistan?
It is absurd to say that Alan Jackson's patriotic song after the attacks on American soil September 11 was part of the Bush propaganda machine.
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If a lie is told a 1,000 times does it make it true? Nope its still a lie. The CIA relied on informants who had their own agenda's. For example Curveball:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)
I looked at what the weapons inspectors were saying...they couldn't find anything mainly because nothing was there to find. The Bush administration refused to believe them.
Alan Jackson's song includes the line "I don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran" which was and is the problem. So many people believe that Iraq had attacked us on 9/11 but they didn't. That song was part of the PR campaign....
I will never understand your reasoning that my protesting the war somehow means I don't support the troops or have contempt for them. Quite the contrary I protested because the troops were being used for an unjust war for political reasons, Iraq not Afghanistan, not in defense of this country. It is my right, in this country, to protest peacefully .... I held a sign which said "Support Our Troops Bring them Home".
I fully support the troops...in fact since I purchased my home in TV I have saved all of my travel size shampoo's, I travel almost every week, and give them to Operation Shoebox. I also donated my lanai furniture to them to sell. I always contribute to Coffee for the Troops at Starbucks. I just don't like going to war when the troops are NOT defending the United States.
Didn't support the surge in Iraq don't support the surge in Afghanistan....the government is just to corrupt to support.
I believe in personal responsibility....so many of the posters here will never admit that Bush or his administration ever lied or made any mistakes. And yet they post that Obama lied all the time. But when you look at it Obama never said that....its a double standard and I hate double standards. So had the post said "The Obama administration lied" then no response from me.
If we all be fair in comparisons then no problem.
You have to know, being from Colorado, that I am a country western fan.