Originally Posted by djplong

On the Arizona law, I've always thought that the devil was in the "reasonable suspicion" clause. If police abused that, there would be justifiable court cases. As long as the cops can back up the reasons for their ID requests, it shouldn't be an issue. But I fear that one bad apple - all it will take is one overzealous cop or one cop overstrained to the breaking point - and there'll be a legal furball exploding.

I believe that illegals have SOME rights. For example, they have the right to have their Miranda rights read to them before we deport them. No reason we can't treat them like civilized human beings. But, make no mistake - DEPORT THEM.

As far as what I categorize myself? I don't have a label that I have any affectation towards. You're correct in that I like JFK, if pressed I'd have to say Thomas Jefferson was my 'hero'. There are some aspects of both major parties that I find ok and other aspects that, somehow, "turning my stomach" doesn't seem to describe my feelings appropriately.

In general, I'm more fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Let's spend money in government EFFECTIVELY and keep a "live and let live" attitude with anyone who's not breaking the law. If you have a law you think is bad, there's civil protest and petitioning for change. There's a proper way to do things. Above all, don't lie when trying to make the sell. It makes you look worse and people will immediately dismiss what you have to say, no matter what else may have been good in your message.

Sigh.. I'm rambling off to a tangent again....