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Originally Posted by macro
Since we are discussing opinions and not facts, I definitely agree that there is a lot of spin, however, I believe we differ greatly on where the spin is coming from. As far as postings go in the forum, those that are posted without FACTS to back them up are nothing more than personal OPINIONS. We are still free to have our OWN opinions, no matter what the facts are. (Not defending anyone, just saying) The 'hug' comment was an inappropriate, patronizing response to the poster. If you want to see real hate speech, go to some of the links provided by WayneT to back up his arguments. The posters are personal, vulgar and crude.
Do you find the T.E.A. parties scary from personal experience or from information provided by the unbiased, liberal press and news outlets? My PERSONAL experience has been very positive. (we have attended several events and meetings) I enjoy reading the creative signs and some of the costumes. I would feel safer at one of these events with dozens of people exercising their right to open carry than I would in some areas of large cities. (and even some small ones) At NO time have I heard 'Hate speech', racial or ethnic slurs. The "HATE" is directed at policies that infringe on our rights and freedoms. The only 'hate' expressed around these rallies came from a handful of people (at a safe distance fortunately for us) that were trying to protest the rally. After being ignored, they finally slunk off. Yes, the G-20 and similar demonstrations scare me. Only used that as a recent example. I have a distinct aversion to having rocks bounced off my admittedly (some say) hard head and being beaten into submission by peace-loving protesters with their signs. I don't understand why a protest is license to destroy property and harm those who don't agree with your views.
As for Clinton and Bush, never thought I would look sort of fondly on the Clinton era (compared to the current one) and IF Bush lied I think it was because of faulty intelligence gathered from multiple sources which fooled the entire free world. Hardest thing in the world to prove is a negative. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that, with the amount of time Saddam had, that he couldn't have moved them. Again, you asked what I think. Back to you.......
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I saw the HUG thing completely differently....the sad thing with the electronic age is we are really unable to tell, for the most part, the intent of the poster. So I took it at face value. I did meet some TEA party people and they did scare me....all the yelling, taking over meetings to what end? And the signs.....the guns. Guns scare me big time.
I have been to several anti-war protests all peaceful...no rock throwing.
As I have 3 nephews in the service, one has been to the war zone 5 times winning the purple heart on his Th tour, I expect the President to only use the troops in defense of the United States. I struggle with the Afghan war as the 9/11 attacks came from there...but there was no excuse to invade a country that did NOT attack us. I still say both Bush and his administration totally lied in the run up to the war and all through out the 8 years...leaving the current administration holding the bag.
You don't like the main stream media and I think Fox Noise is a mouth piece for the Republican party. I mainly watch Morning Joe, PBS Evening News and Rachel Maddow. Today I took in about 1 hour a Fox Noise just to check in.