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Originally Posted by djplong
Let me be more specific then - prayer without action will do nothing. You can sit there and be as pious as you want - but without DOING something, nothing will happen.
And "the recent years" of our moral decay??? While I agree that you can point to several things that aren't as they should be - would you rather go back to those more 'godly' times of slavery, treating women like chattel, tribal warfare, etc? And I grant you that this is my personal hot button, but to claim that the moral decay of the country is due to having 'God' expelled from public schools while the Catholic Church was out raping children shows a certain blindness.
Read what I wrote - God belongs in the home and the Church. I recall a certain passage regarding the opinion Jesus had of people who had to shout their faith from everywhere and make it known to everyone.
Majority rules? If that were true, blacks would still be in the back of the bus and drinking from "colored" fountains and being arrested at "whites only" places!
Even the founding fathers spoke of the "tyranny of the majority".
That being said, we DO seem to be going a little overboard in what the word "accomodate" means when it comes to the government.
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Sometimes I don't think we can see the forest for the trees when we try to have discussions like this. We all have many valid and good points, but often it comes to arguing apples and oranges. You can't paint everything in such broad strokes like when you jump from moral decay and having Christian values back in this nation to segregation and tribal warfare. It doesn't make sense to me. There's much more in the discussion than just generalization like some we all make.
For instance, I don't personally think the Catholic Church should take the victim's posture. But when you clump all Catholics or the Catholic Church under a shadow of the sins of some, that is what some have been chastised for when it comes to Islam and the Muslims on this forum.