Originally Posted by ijusluvit

I agree that pennies are wasted and that shouldn't be. But it's going to happen in an imperfect world and we STILL MUST PAY to have a stable government which protects it's citizens and their opportunity to lead productive, peaceful lives.

We have been "taking peoples' money" for over 200 years. We have ALWAYS had some "ability to pay" differentiation in the tax structure. I'm staying in that context, and just asking if this new wrinkle (expiring credits for 250k's) is a good idea or not.

And forgive me, but I look at statements like "class warfare", and "reckless government" as emotional rather than factual descriptions of our situation. If there is any substance to those descriptors, lay out the facts.

In my view, two hundred years of some form of "ability to pay" nullifies the "class warfare" idea. And there are literally millions of us out there who are relieved that instead of being "reckless", government intervention has provided a job, kept our mutual fund from becoming worthless, stopped some planned terrorist attacks on domestic targets, made BP put 20 billion in the bank, etc., etc.

OK, let's end this. I'll assume that most folks here are finally willing to admit it's not horrific to allow the tax credits for $250K earners to expire.

But you've suggested an interesting next question: Since eighty thousand is a pretty good sample, can you find ANYONE in TV whose life has been negatively changed to a significant degree by action of the reckless Obama administration?