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Originally Posted by djplong
It's interesting that there are several exceptions to the Republican's "Cut Go" system - meaning you can't have any new spending without cutting somewhere else.
The biggest exception I noted was any bill involving repealing any part of "Obamacare".
Think about that for a second - the Republicans scream that Obamacare will bankrupt us but then say that budget increases DUE TO REPEALING OBAMACARE are ok!
The CBO says that Obamacare will save money (actually I believe it they say that budget increases with Obamacare are less than without it). The GOP says they don't believe the CBO's numbers. But the Republicans show NO SPINE by crafting themselves an "out" if repealing Obamacare DOES end up costing more than keeping it.
Meanwhile - nobody screams about the fact that we still pay more than any other nation for health care. Over $5700 per capita according to some 2 year old number I found. The next highest country is Switzerland paying just over $3000 and they recently switched from "American Style" health care to a public-private system more like what you'll find in France and Germany. Oh, and the Canadians? They pay around $2700.
To be honest, I'm shocked that Republicans and Democrats aren't both screaming the same tune that we're being ripped off - paying more than anyone and not getting our money's worth.
Explain to me why walking into a hospital in Montreal and getting expert emergency care cost me less than $600 while the same procedures at home in New Hampshire cost several thousand. It's inexcusable.
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All I have to say to this....is the satisfaction exhibited and claimed by you and others when this bill was passed, even though it made no attempt to reduce health costs that you are railing about. is very confusing. You praise this WH no matter what side he is on. He, the president, just tossed any attempt to reduce costs, out the window and went the backroom, blackmail route just to get a bill passed.
All the while, there were folks, elected and not who were trying very hard to have that media you speak of to tell the story...to shout that this will not reduce health costs and does not even address it. During the little charade the President held where he basically yawned his way through, we heard over and over about costs not being addressed to no avail. We heard folks who wanted to just discuss reducing health costs to no avail.
You then say that
"nobody screams about the fact that we still pay more than any other nation for health care." have you been out of touch in some way...this is the very reasoning being used as this bill got closer to passage. EVERYBODY screams but you gotta have somebody to listen. I hear it all the time..I read it all the time..not in big print I will give you. Tell the man who you seem to adore in the WH to begin to listen.
Finally, RICH has a post on the arrogant line being forwarded by a few Democrats..not all but a few on the CBO numbers. I suggest you read the premise for any budget numbers and the fragile, AT BEST, financial justification for this bill.
Sorry...I am ranting...I swore off posting on here because of folks like you who will find a way to defend this WH, the single most corrupt and political WH I can recall. I have railed on this bill before it was passed...I have mentioned many times the environment this was passed in...bacrooms, deals, etc.
Yes we need to address health costs...absolutely...tell your President that !