the info is all very good...allsinglestravel sounds like what we need here! thanks for that lead...i will check out the revew of the Epic cruise with the link sent...keep the suggestions coming...i personally am most interested in group european travel. have traveled with Go Ahead vacations often and i know they offer one free tour with a group of ten which saves each person a few hundred dollars...cost is getting much higher with the low value of the dollar, however. they are a no frills company. would love to do a tour with smithsonian or something really high quality once before i croak!!