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Old 03-07-2011, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Challenger View Post
Rich--My figures come from research today on various internet sites and I welcome correction if someone can produce better info. I post them only because I hear so often that we should adopt the Israeli system without any reference to the costs. I believe that is what the past several national administrations have done with such devestating consequences for our children and grandchildren. I am concerned about the relinquishment of freedoms, but I also believe that freedom from violence is a worthy objective that may in some cases trump others. BTW my son is an international airline pilot; my daughter a retired flight attendant; my daughter in law , a retired flight attendant; my son in law, a retired marine pilot and I am a private pilot. They have described to me many times procedures and shortcomings in secutiry well beyond those that you have mentioned here.

Pilots and crew go through essentially the same security checks as passengers( as if it matters, remember the Egyptian Pilot sucicide crash off LI) and a wrong comment to a TSA inspector can result in severe disciplinary procedures against them.Clearly there are some procedures that need revisitation and I am hopeful that discussions and debates such as ours will result in a better process. Do you think that they are listening?
To start from the beginning; Lawmakers in New Hampshire have written a bill to outlaw the procedures, a bi-partisan group of 18 lawmakers from Texas, backed by the liberal ALCU, have written a bill to ban the procedures and N.J. also has or had a bill written by lawmakers to ban these procedures which many feel is contrary to the intent of the 4th Amendment.

So, yes, some are listening.

Having as much practical experience as you have you know that what I'm saying in this thread is not nonsense. There are ways to beat our reactionary system and if we know it, so do the terrorists. So the sense of security many on this forum feel is illusionary, and they gave up their rights and liberty for that false sense of security.

A good friend of mine who is related to an airline pilot told me this story. The pilot was going through security the morning of a flight. Because of stay-overs he carries silverware that the airline provides 1st class passengers with him for convenience. The TSA agent said he couldn't take the dull knife with a few ridges on board. The pilot explained that this is the knife that is already on the plane and given to passengers in 1st class. Needless to say it fell on deaf ears and the silverware in question was confiscated.

I feel so much safer now.

This is the same pilot that will be piloting this huge aircraft laden with fuel and who has a gun in the cockpit.
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