In my Italian family you were required to discuss politics and religion. What you tried to ignore was cooking, and especially meat sauce, because they would get you into really trouble. I am partial to a thick meat sauce. While in the military as a kid I had my wife mentor under my mother so she cooks just like her. Gnocchi, rivioli veal dishes, Florentine rolls, home amde pizza, past figoli. Made myself hungry. anyway I found Giovanni's OK, Much to my surprise I liked Olive Gardens sauce better than redsauce both the meat sauce and tomato (mara sp) sauce. Finally its meat sauce and not gravy. Gravy goes on your mash potatoes