[Xavier]

Originally Posted by cabo35

Red........I have uncharacteristically omitted copious, detailed response to your assertions in the interest of saving key strokes. Accordingly, you said,

However, there is no question that Villagers were treated shoddily in having to purchase rec centers way over their value; I don't recall a finding against Morse. Was he guilty legally of something. Do those rec centers provide an income stream that was factored into the price?

in Paradise Rec Center being allowed to fall into disrepair while paths were built and improved to Spanish Springs; Has Paradise been repaired? ..... the cartpath improvements are a bad thing....why?

in the way amenity fees have at times been handled; in the nickle and diming of Villagers in general. Who handles the amenity fees? How were they mishandled and how were Villagers nickeled and dimed?

There is no question that Mark Morse did settle a lawsuit filed against the developer (meaning MM) by the homeowners north of 466. Once again, was there a court finding against him? Did everyone walk away from the table happy? I know those that brought the action were happy with their piece of the pie.

There is no question that there are some legitimate issues involved with the IRS and that the IRS originally said they would let them slide the first go-round and that rather than fix the issues, Morse, et al. continued with the same tax deductions. Tax deductions? I thought the matter was over the issue of tax free bonds. The whole subject of taxation, bonding and Community Development Districts nationwide is going through a metamorphosis because there is little precedent to refer to. Ergo..your suggestion of clarity ('no question') seems extreme. .

There is no question that his wife and daughter have pled guilty to misdemeanor hunting charges in Montana. ...you find this "improper and abusive" to Villagers how?

-- charges which Mark Morse has been accused of actively participating in. There is no question Mark Morse has been charged with some pretty serious crimes in Montana that could put him in prison for many years to come (although the odds are he will simply be fined, which is what has happened in previous cases like this). "Accused" would be the working word. Your embellishment about "prison sentencing" is meant to inflame even though you hedge your bet and provide a caveat....just in case .

There is no question that he was once quoted as saying that the land for Moffett Center was a donation and then it was discovered that it was anything but. Have you been made privy to all the contractual agreements between Morse and the medical providers in issue? It seems like everyone is happy and the Villages will be the winner. If I recall, you have some experience in legal matters. Aren't these situations dynamic and changing until the contracts are signed?

If you look at some of the fees Villagers have been charged for services (such as $3.50/day for their Empty Nest program), it should be difficult to justify these fees and they do smack of greed. Are those mandatory fees or options a homeowner can secure if he is willing to pay?

I do believe that if he could get away with it, he would take every dime in the amenity fees and use them for his personal gain, pretty much as he tried to do prior to the 466-north lawsuit. Once again, I assume you are referring to the lawsuit where everyone walked away happy, some happier then others, and there was no finding against the developer.

My point is not to categorically defend the developer. In a word, it is balance. Given the motivation, one can take either side of the issue and "make a case". The true axe grinders and bashers are self evident and you are clearly above that pay grade.

Have a good day Red.

cabo35,

We almost never agree on political things, but I couldn't agree more with you on the protection of individual rights. Your response is outstanding and dead on. Thank you for your excellent contribution to this discussion.

Xavier